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Offline Stroma on: October 25, 2017, 07:54:09 AM

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I am a bit worried about the inactivity of the forum and the developers of this website. Ive read that you got a steam greenlight and that the game wouldve been soon released. I wonder what happened? Did something happen? :(

Offline Machine Medic #1 on: October 25, 2017, 01:37:53 PM

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Money as usual, I think.  Skilled developers aren't cheap.  Cheap developers aren't skilled. 

Rotacak mentioned something about working with a publisher a few weeks ago.

Offline Loki #2 on: October 26, 2017, 11:33:37 PM

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Rotacak has made an all-in on this project IMO, I don't think it's a ship he'd abandon. Give it time, bureaucracy is the devil.

Offline Machine Medic #3 on: October 27, 2017, 11:06:00 AM

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How is bureaucracy involved?

Offline Loki #4 on: October 28, 2017, 12:22:39 AM

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How is bureaucracy involved?

IT'S EVERYWHERE
#ancap4life

Offline Nomad #5 on: November 01, 2017, 12:23:09 AM

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A few progress updates would be greatly appreciated

Offline Machine Medic #6 on: November 01, 2017, 09:09:43 PM

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I don't think there has been any progress to report.  No money = no employees. 

A man's got to eat.

Offline Prophet #7 on: November 12, 2017, 12:08:00 AM

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yo, wanted to chime in on the concerns here.  My boys and I are still looking forward to Murnatan, hoping for some news soon...

Offline Machine Medic #8 on: November 12, 2017, 12:36:59 AM

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We need to figure out some way to raise capital for this game. 

It's not going to make progress without money to spend.
It's not going to earn money to spend without making progress.

You see the problem.

It's either:
 - A fundraising event  (Hell, even a Patreon account with the right set of rewards would at least give you *some* money to work with.  Offer special artistic-style wallpaper renders, item exchange currency, name in the credits, or something in that nature!)
 - A loan/publisher/sponsor (Who will undoubtedly want a say in the game's development)
 - Enlisting volunteer help

 - Pre-releasing the game for paid Early Access.  (Convince people that this is a cause worth supporting and you might be surprised.)

Those are the only options.
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Offline Prophet #9 on: November 12, 2017, 12:52:04 AM

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We need to figure out some way to raise capital for this game. 

It's not going to make progress without money to spend.
It's not going to earn money to spend without making progress.

You see the problem.

It's either:
 - A fundraising event
 - A loan/publisher/sponsor (Who will undoubtedly want a say in the game's development)
 - Enlisting volunteer help

 - Pre-releasing the game for paid Early Access.

Those are the only options.

I wouldn't make any assumptions like that until we get some word back.  After all maybe they're fine financially and just taking some vacation days.

Offline Machine Medic #10 on: November 12, 2017, 01:01:33 AM

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I would like to believe you.  Really, I would.

The last mention of any significant progress to the best of my memory was prior to May or April of this year.  The fact that they are now trying to deal with a publisher in order to further progress suggests that their financial woes have returned.

I want to be optimistic, but...  It's hard not to be skeptical after the dev tracker hasn't moved in such a long time (ignoring one small batch of spelling corrections and bugfixes in the last month or two).

Offline Loki #11 on: November 13, 2017, 12:08:00 AM

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I am fairly certain they will choose the best way. I don't think they're going to give up after all this time. Let's see what the future holds.

Offline Nomad #12 on: November 15, 2017, 01:10:28 PM

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Paid early access should work, from what I've seen from the gameplay video, the game looks like it can function pretty well. Even if it's not optimized well, I'd play it!

Offline Machine Medic #13 on: November 15, 2017, 10:21:41 PM

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Agreed.  We've come this far, waited this long.  Even if it is rough around the edges, people playing the game will bring attention to it.  Attention = more players.  More players (in paid early access) = more funding - both through purchases AND the resulting increased odds of getting a publisher.

There is always the concern of giving players the wrong idea about a game by letting them play it before it is fully ready...  That is something that nobody here can rightly speak to except Rotacak.  The decision weighs solely on him as to whether the game is 'good' enough to be shown to the world.

Even so... I'd rather see this game released early than delayed for another 2 years.
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Offline Rotacak #14 on: November 22, 2017, 09:03:17 AM

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Yes, it is currently complicated. With publisher it first looks good then looks again bad. Main problem are only money. I did everything what I could for this game, but it still not enough. There are few another possible solutions but if everything will fail, then final release with final gameplay will be delayed by several years until I will make money for it.

But do not worry. Game is playable and I want to release it atleast as is until end of year. Don't know if game can gain popularity when is unfinished - I personally think no, mainly because of missing admin system. But better have it released than no.